INTERVIEW WITH PRISCILLA ROYAL

     Now that Lionheart has been dispatched (via e-mail yet; ah, brave new world) to my editor, I am able to rejoin the world again and I am delighted to be able to share an interview with one of my favorite mystery writers, Priscilla Royal.  In the interest of full disclosure, I should say that Priscilla is a friend, but I became a fan before we met at the Poisoned Pen in Scottsdale.  I was struck by how well she seemed to understand the medieval mind; her characters are always firmly rooted in the 13th century, very much men and women of their times.  They are also sympathetic, yet very human; much of the action may revolve around an abbey, but there are no saints there!   Valley of Dry Bones is her seventh entry in the Eleanor-Thomas mysteries, and it kept me up into the early hours of the morning.  High suspense and a strong medieval ambience–who could ask for more?   But now I’ll let Priscilla speak for herself.

What attracted you to medieval history?

My fascination probably began during my childhood in Canada, but chance has encouraged it. A high school teacher gave me a paperback copy of The Canterbury Tales because I liked Chaucer. At San Francisco State University, I accidentally signed up for a class taught by John Gardner, a controversial medieval scholar but one who vividly brought to life both the times and the literature. I became quite hooked. Much damage has been done to our understanding of medieval life, especially by the Victorians who viewed the era as either terribly romantic or awfully barbaric. To my mind, the Middle Ages are complex and rich, yet subtle, without the flashing opulence of the Renaissance. In any case, the medieval era is not just the commonly assumed centuries of lock-step religion, primitive art, suppression of women, appalling ignorance, superstition, and filth. All eras possess unspeakable brutality, as well as enlightenment, a pattern that has varied little throughout history. In the 12th century, there was creative intellectual debate while the 14th was a cruel time for the thoughtful dissenter. But in modern times, Stalin came after the progressive Alexander II, and the McCarthy years were followed by improved civil rights in the 1960s. History teaches that enlightenment and compassion are not modern inventions and that we must never assume they will be permanent features in any society.

 

What author first inspired you to write medieval mysteries?

Ellis Peters, the consummate storyteller who respected research while integrating it so well the flow of the mystery was never hampered. In Brother Cadfael, she created the perfect sleuth: the outsider who could see what others, blinded by familiarity and assumptions, missed. Since her detective lived in an anarchic era, he could explore the meaning of justice in any given situation because there was no rule of law. Although no reasonable person wants vigilantism, we also recognize that laws can be unjust or badly interpreted. Defining justice is always interesting to the mystery reader because we want a fair resolution of a crime within the spirit of law. As far as Ellis Peters’ influence on my work, I only hope that I have learned enough from her to create entertaining variations.

 

Did you intend to write a series? If so, why?

I love series so planned a long one. One favorite author early on was Anthony Trollope, a writer who created an entire county and demonstrated that a series could remain vital as long as it was carefully paced and there were enough interesting characters for variety. As a reader, I love settling in with a world and its inhabitants, watching the evolution of both, and eagerly awaiting the next book. How will the author entertain, surprise, and inform me next? As a writer, I discovered the joy of slow character development, balancing humor and tension, as well as craft experimentation so the books do not become boring. And with historicals, I could add the fun of research and learning more about my chosen era. A series is like a marriage. To be successful, it needs work, trust, and dedication.

 

Tell us about your characters, how they developed, and what roles they play.

Eleanor arrived first: a small woman, determined and a bit fierce. I thought she’d make a good 21st century CEO or head of a social justice group. Imagine my surprise when she announced she was a 13th century English prioress. As my jaw dropped, she suggested I study the Order of Fontevraud to discover what clever young women (albeit high-born) could do in the Middle Ages. She also said that she might have a sincere vocation but she would have struggles with pride and a strong sexuality. Brother Thomas revealed himself more slowly. I did not want a Dr. Watson type. He had to be a powerful character in his own right or frankly both Eleanor and I would get bored with him. Unfortunately, he started evolving into good husband material for her. I wasn’t interested in a series with romps in the monastic hayloft, but I couldn’t imagine them as sexless characters either. They are both of an age when biology demands mating. Luckily, Thomas solved part of the problem by admitting he was gay. This gave him some rather profound issues to resolve. Although he must behave differently in the 13th century than he would in the 21st, I promised him that he would not fall into some easy solution that would insult his integrity. As a gay man, he is, and shall remain, a real mensch. His announcement also allowed me to investigate a lesser known, and often avoided, aspect of medieval society and to explore the complex nature of love as he and Eleanor evolve in the series. The main secondary characters arrived quickly, generously allowing themselves to reveal aspects of medieval life. Sister Anne illustrates a woman’s choices when her husband decides to take religious vows. Ralf may be rebellious, but he is still the youngest son of minor nobility and family interests demand his loyalty. Gytha, the prioress’ maid, comes from a family of pre-Conquest Saxon thegns. Now the conquered people, they struggle to achieve merchant class.

 

Why choose monastic sleuths rather than secular ones?

The answer partially lies in the monastic leader’s authority as well as an element of Christian belief. An abbot/abbess or prior/prioress was the representative of religious law on Church property and for their monastics. As such, they had the right to investigate and often try any of their religious who committed felonies. So a presumed amateur like Eleanor has the right to get involved in crimes. Added to this was the belief that a religious might be a flawed mortal, incapable of perfection, but he/she was still obliged to strive toward God’s perfection. If God was perfect, so was His justice. Thus Eleanor may rationalize her attempts to find a more perfect justice than that found in secular society—and sometimes the religious one. And, finally, the Church and the State were in constant war with each other over power and wealth. This adds tension and plot possibilities for my religious sleuths, liegemen of the Church, when they must deal with secular authority.

 

Why did you pick the late 13th century/early 14th?

I suffer the curse of once being a comparative literature major so sought a period with historical events that might resonate with us today. The late 1200s/early 1300s were perfect. I’m not trying to force comparisons between that era and today, but I do see hints of similarities—like an image in a pond when a breeze ruffles the surface. History rarely duplicates itself, but the past often illustrates the dangers of taking certain paths and the consequences of decisions made. And I thought it would be fun to play with the issue of transitioning generations: if people grew up learning the values of one era, what would they do when faced with changing ideals, practices, prospects? Whether deemed good, bad, or indifferent, Henry III’s reign lasted fifty-six years. That was longer than the average lifespan in the 13th century. Then his son, Edward I, arrived, a man who tried to be his father’s opposite. Relative peace exploded into many wars. Lax legal practices were reined in. Stricter laws enforced compliance. Bled dry by taxes and fees, all Jews were expelled from England. The Church rejected debate and experimentation, growing rigid and choosing violence to silence dissent. The causes of change were complex but included a global chilling which severely affected health and the economy. My characters will face interesting dilemmas as the series progresses!

 

Tell us about your newest book.

Valley of Dry Bones is now out in traditional print, audio, and e-reader versions. Although I try not to favor any amongst the series brood, this book was especially fun to write, in part because I could finally include liturgical dramas. In 2003, I saw The Play of Daniel, presented by Aurora Theater and the Pacific Mozart Ensemble in Berkeley CA, a work that may be 12th-13th century but reminded me of early opera with all the drama but fewer stage mechanics. It also had roaring lions, the perfect backdrop to murder. My excitement must have been contagious because many characters showed up for inclusion in Valley. I rejected several, bribing some with appearances in future books. Crowner Ralf’s brother, the sheriff, did make final casting, and Eleanor’s nemesis, the man in black, who is Thomas’ spymaster. Although I once assumed this latter fellow, now named Father Eliduc, was a villain, I discovered he possessed interesting shades of gray. Since Edward I is now king, I also wanted to hint at coming events. Ralf and his brother see the advent of a new legal system: less overt corruption but fewer options for individualized justice. Father Eliduc foresees the evolution in the Church/State power struggle and recognizes the need to recruit men possessed of more zeal but probably fewer scruples. The future interaction between Eleanor and Eliduc promises to be exciting.

 

Thank you, Sharon, for inviting me to your blog. Your books have given me much pleasure over the years and are an ongoing source of inspiration as well as a major reason the medieval era continues to intrigue. Should any of your readers have questions about my series, my website (www.priscillaroyal.com) provides a link to my email. And if they are interested in blogs, I am one of the mystery writers at the Lady Killers (www.theladykillers.typepad.com
Thank you, Priscilla!  I know you’re hard at work on another medieval mystery, so I appreciate your taking the time away from your writing and researching to pay us a visit.  
November 18, 2010

114 thoughts on “INTERVIEW WITH PRISCILLA ROYAL

  1. Oh Sharon…you do such terrible damage to my Amazon wish list. 🙂 Thanks for such a fun interview, I have new books to search out! And thank you for this sentence, which gave me such joy: “Now that Lionheart has been dispatched…” YAY! Good news all around in this entry!

  2. Quite interesting. I don’t usually go for mysteries, but I’ll have to look into this. I must agree with Sara, though – thanks to you, my list is endless. Also, hurray for the good news.

  3. More books to look for! I have got many still in my TBR pile (thankyou Sharon for all your recommendations) but I am always on the lookout for Christmas presents for likeminded people (ie those also interested in medieval times). They could fill the gap in my life left by Justin de Quincy :). When can we start counting sleeps left until Lionheart is released?

  4. If I am going to go bankrupt buying books, I might as well take as many of you with me as I can, right? That car bumper sticker I once saw is so true: “So many books, so little time.” Most likely Lionheart will be published next autumn in the US, Paula. I don’t know in the UK.

  5. Thanks for this interesting interview. I’ve read the first three of this series, and the next four are on my wish list. I enjoyed reading of Ms. Royal’s interest in the Cadfael series, another of my favorites. And, like Paula, I would love to read more Jusin de Quincy.

  6. *Sigh* My wish list groweth. On the bright side, that means I’ll never be bored. Thank you both for this engaging interview, and for wish list damage. Sharon, great news about Lionheart.

  7. I agree with paula! “send justin de Quincy too the Crusades?? rescue, Sibilla??…I;m Getting Carried Away ,Arn;t I (Sorry)

  8. I met Priscilla when I heard you speak at Poison Pen. Not being a huge mystery reader (tho I loved Caedfael and think Ruth Rendell one of the unsung writers of the genre), I’ve not latched on to her writing. But I’m willing to give it a try. Is this new book a ‘stand alone’, or do I need to read the first book in the series? If so, where do I start? (congrats btw on getting Lionheart out! I’m sure you are breathing a sigh of relief, and we fans are counting down the days to next fall)

  9. Just thought I’d drop back in for a comment or two. First, I want to add to the pleas for more Justins. Maybe he was delayed getting to the continent with the Icelandic volcano that was trying its best to recreate the 14th century Little Ice Age? Regarding “Valley of Dry Bones”, it’s the seventh in the series. As a reader, I like to start with the first (“Wine of Violence” in my case), but I became a fan of Peter Robinson after reading “In a Dry Season” (a fun back and forth between WWII and modern times), then got all his earlier books. All writers hope to get better with practise, and I admit partiality for “Valley”, so starting with either “Wine” or “Valley” would work. Cheers to Sharon on completing “Lionheart”! I can hardly wait…

  10. I have read all of Priscilla’s books, and they just keep getting better. Thanks for this interview, Sharon and Priscilla.

  11. I don’t smoke and I don’t drink but it appears that I am addicted to books!!! I love your interviews with authors because without them, I would have missed out on fabulous novels. My wish list is bigger than ever and my bookshelves are overflowing…fun, fun, fun!!!
    Great news about Lionheart. I am trully grateful for all the work you put into your writing. I don’t know how you do it! I can’t wait to read this new novel and immerse myself in Richard’s world. In the meantime, I have Priscilla’s books to discover!

  12. Today, Perkin Warbeck, the pretender to Richard Duke of York (Edward IV’s son) was hanged, and Margaret of York, Duchess of Burgundy died.

  13. Happy Thanksgiving to all of my American readers and friends. It will be a wonderful holiday for me as my editor is now at the halfway point in Lionheart and loves it so far!

  14. Today, the Disaster of the White Ship took place, which eventually lead to the Anarchy. Also the Battle of Montgisard, where Saladin was defeated by Baldwin ‘the Leper’ IV and Raynald of Châtillon.
    In other events, Happy THanksgiving to any American celebrating.

  15. And today, Elizabeth of York gave birth to Margaret Tudor, and more importantly, Owain I Gwynedd died.

  16. Live in blissful ignorance? Who knows?
    Today, Henry I ‘Beauclerc’ of England died, Louis VI ‘le gros’ of France was born (the father of Eleanor’s Louis), and Isabella of England, Holy Roman Empress, the daughter of John I and Isabella died.
    Also, Happy Hanukkah to all.

  17. Happy Hanukkah to you, Koby, and to all my Jewish friends and readers. And sympathy to all in the UK, who are enduring a wretched blast of winter weather that seems as if it will never go away.

  18. ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE TOUR—the travel agency is considering dates in late May, early June of next year. That is the most sensible time frame, as I could not make it in the autumn when Lionheart will be published. And there would be hordes of tourists crowding all the sites during the high summer months. I am so impressed with the travel agency people; they’re doing a wonderful job so far.

  19. Random question which I have a better chance of getting answers for here:
    Recently I’ve almost finished Dorothy Dunnet’s classic historical novels, The Lymond Chronicles. I’m at the end of the sixth and last book, Checkmate. Is it just me, or did anyone who read this feel this book can be summed up by ‘Oh, the angst!’?

  20. Vacation in late May or early June of next year sounds great to me!!! I can’t wait to get more details about the Eleanor of Aquitaine Tour.
    The world is upside down. We’ve had over 22 mm of rain within the last 24 hours here in Ottawa. The little snow we had is all gone. 🙁 I would gladly take all the snow the UK has had recently. Snow is normal for Canada at this time of year, not rain!!!
    I can’t comment on The Lymond Chronicles by Dorothy Dunnet but I am curious to see what others think about the books. I have been wondering for a while now if I should start reading the series.

  21. Well, I personally liked them a lot. My only criticism of them is:
    a) There are often quotes/pieces of conversation in French/Spanish/etc, as well as references to some literature I don’t know. This is annoying, because even if you translate these quotes, yo can’t realize what the reference is referencing, and you feel you missed out on some part of the conversation.
    b) Part of the reason a) is so annoying is that some parts are very subtle. Many conversations are obscure, so that you only know they’re arguing about somethng, but you don’t realize about what, or who won th3e arguement.
    On the other hand, who knows? Maybe I read it when I was too young. I mean, when I re-read the first book after finishing the first five, I suddenly understood so much more of it.

  22. Thanks for acknowledging Chanukah – its very early this year (blame the lunar Hebrew calendar!) so it gets lost in the shuffle (its also was a minor holiday before it was brought into the limelight kicking and screaming by gift giving Christmas. But its nice to be noticed)
    Crossing my fingers – our last day of school is May 27th!

  23. It has been too many years since I read the Lymond Chronicles for me to be able to comment coherently, Koby. But if you want to get a spirited discussion started, go to my Facebook page and let loose. I posted a little something yesterday about Henry I’s death, and this triggered a very lively (and sometimes disgusting) discussion of eels!

  24. Sharon,.Will your newbook (lionhart) Go Electric, ie, Kimble or Even C,D. “Have you ever Been Approached! on these Publishing-mediums”. if So ,who would you Have?..Speaking your Books??….Man or woman. “hope this dosen;t put you on the Spot-Too much” kind regards James.

  25. Hi, James. I am sure Lionheart will be available as an e-book, on Kindle and Nook, etc. Most of my books are now on Kindle, though Saints is still bogged down in an Amazon swamp and the delay is their fault, not my publishers. Sadly, none of my books are available in the audio format and as much as I’d like to see that change, I don’t think it is likely. Not unless Lionheart were to be become a monster mega-hit! Needless to say, writers have no say in these decisions….sigh.
    Koby, I just ready about the awful forest fire in Israel. I hope it can soon be brought under control.
    Lastly, they sent me the proposed book jacket for Lionheart last night, and it is simply spectacular. More on this when I can.

  26. Today, Louis IX of France and Henry III of England agreed to the Treaty of Paris, in which Henry renounced his claims to French-controlled territory on continental Europe in exchange for Louis withdrawing his support for English rebels.
    By now, they say it’s under control, and some people have returned to their homes… but there are over 40 fatalities, Kibbutz Beit Oren was completely destroyed, and over 50,00 dunam of forest have burned… it’s horrible.

  27. I’m glad to hear the fire is finally under control, Koby. I read about those prisoner guards who died; it was awful. the only good thing about natural catastrophes like this is that the country doesn’t have to suffer alone, as throughout most of history. In the MA, flood or famine victims could not expect aid from outside their borders, probably not even from the next town. By the time word trickled out, it would be too late. So despite some obvious drawbacks, I think we’re all lucky to be living in the 21st century.

  28. Well, strong winds have blown it out of control again. But now they say that thanks to the help, they’ll have it under control for sure in a day or two. Also, it’s supposed to rain Sunday night, so that should help.

  29. I was just watching coverage on NBC News, Koby. The flames looked truly hellish and they had a heartbreaking story about a 16 year old volunteer firefighter who’d died with all of those prison guards. But they did say other nations were offering aid, including Russia and even Turkey, and the US is sending a super-tanker plane tonight. Hopefully they’ll be able to get it under control again. Do they suspect arson?

  30. Well, they say it’s only burning now in two centers, thanks two all the help, and that by evening it should be control. I can only pray that it is so.
    I don’t think they suspect arson. They arrested two boys who they suspect caused the fire by letting their fire get out of control.

  31. A friend on Facebook just mentioned having read your most recent books and another mentioned your others. I have another book that I read last year “Eleanor and the 4 Kings”. My 2nd name is my SCA personna- a lady in Emperor Frederick II’s court who oversees the care of his aviary- especially the umbrella cockatoo. One of the latter shared my life for 23 years and now I have an adopted African grey (also well know in medieval times). I bought the book on falconry just to find what Frederick wrote about his parrots (not as much as I hoped). I am still trying to find more on medieval aviaries and pleasure gardens to expand on my personna.

  32. And today, Henry VI (VII) of England was born.
    Also, the fire in the Carmel is fianlly out, and rain has come.

  33. Welcome aboard, Virginia/ Beatrice. You might like to read The Kings and Their Hawks; Falconry in Medieval England by Robin S. Oggins.
    I am so glad to hear that, Koby! I read that it is considered to be Israel’s worst ever natural catastrophe?

  34. Considering it’s about the only significant one which ever happened to the State of Israel… yeah. Not to discount from it’s horrible toll of devastation, of course. But if you’re looking for natural disasters in the last few hundered of years, there were probably worse, most notably the great Galilee earthquake of 1837, which killed over 3000 people and completely destroyed Tzefat (Safed).
    It’s nothing compared to what has hit other countries in recent years, but it is certainly the worst that Israel has suffered in living memory.

  35. And today, Gilbert de Clare, 6th Earl of Hertford who was kinghted by Simon de Montfort and personally captured King Henry III (IV) at the Battle of Lewes died.

  36. Koby, your store of esoteric medieval lore is awesome!
    For more mainstream knowledge, today is the birthday of Mary, Queen of Scots, born in 1542. Not medieval, I know, but worth mentioning. I once read that whether you sympathize with Mary or Elizabeth says more about you than it does about either queen. I’m on Team Elizabeth. (even if she is a Tudor)

  37. Bite your tongue, Sharon! It may be that John took advantage of Lady Moppet’s methods to have a get together with Anne Boleyn, as he did with Mary.

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