IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE

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     I have recently been approached about conducting a tour of Eleanor of Aquitaine’s France in 2011.   I am working out the details of this project with Academic Travel Aboard, a professional tour operator in Washington, DC that has sixty years of experience in the educational travel field.  We plan to delve into twelfth century life during this 10-12 day tour of Paris, Poitiers, and other sites closely associated with Eleanor’s life and times.  Naturally we are considering Fontevrault Abbey and Chinon Castle.  We would like to get feedback from my readers and Facebook and my blog offer a unique opportunity to do this.  If you click onto the link below, you can participate in a very brief poll; your answers will help us to shape the program.   And of course I’d be very interested in any comments and suggestions you care to make.  There are some truly spectacular places associated with Eleanor, Henry, and their Devil’s Brood, including Mont St Michel and Carcassonne.  I’ve often mentioned the spell that Fontevrault casts and I’d love to share that experience with some of my readers.  So please do take the poll and let me know your thoughts.   Thanks!

 http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22BD52FCKZ8  

October 23, 2010

126 thoughts on “IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE”

  1. Ooh, I would love to do this. Unfortunately, I don’t think that abandoning my family for a trip to France would go down too well, politically, but I can dream! My mind is spinning right now, trying to figure out a way I could make it work!

  2. Oh yes yes yes! If its affordable, I so want to do this. Please let me know as soon as possible about the particulars. I might drag my DH along with me (well I won’t have to really drag, he wants to go back to Paris, but I don’t know if we have enough money to do it) Oh Im excited!

  3. I definitely want to go, especially with you, Sharon. What a once-in-a-lifetime experience it would be!

  4. I would love to go, though I doubt I’ll be bale to get off from college, even in the summer. But with the help of the Lord, who knows?

  5. I’d definitely be up for it if it’s in the fall/winter time frame. The whole trip sounds so totally awesome!

  7. I can personally attest to the fact that a medieval tour in France with Sharon is an experience not to be missed.

  8. Sharon, Would this be organised from the States? If so, what would be the possibilities of UK readers (and others) joining the tour? We could, for example, make our own travel and accommodation arrangements (once we know the itinerary) and join our American cousins for the actual site visits and some enjoyable wine and food!!
    Have you thought of including a visit to the Chateau de Guedelon? It may be rather too far to go (Burgundy) but seeing a medieval chateau being built using original tools, materials and methods would be of enormous interest.
    http://www.guedelon.fr/

  9. Ken, I think the plan would be to assemble in Paris so that would certainly make it possible for UK readers to attend. I can’t imagine anything being more fun than chasing after Eleanor’s ghost in the company of my fellow medieval geeks!

  10. Sharon:
    I think that you and Eleanor’s ghost will have a lot to talk about together if you meet up with her on your tour. I would love to tag along and bring my family, but for the next few years, we are tied down a little bit with school and babies. We shall certainly see though. I am glad that you are still thinking about my query that I posted in August, and look forward to getting more of your insight as a writer, and perhaps someday sharing some of my writing with you. You mentioned sending the answer to my email, and if you would like to do that, my email is e_manpratt@hotmail.com. I am glad that Lionheart is coming together, and look forward to hearing about who he really was. Thanks again.
    Eric

  11. Wait…nevermind the part about emailing me, because you asked me to email you. Sorry, I do not absorb much at 4:00 a.m.

  12. Sharon!!!!
    You can sign my mother and I up! We would love to go in September, but we would go anytime with you! As along as where we stay is comfortable and clean, we don’t care about 3-5 stars! You have two people on board already!

  13. I’m hoping an official blogger(s) could be assigned within the group so that those of us unable to be there physically could travel along vicariously.

  14. I am almost finished with “Devil’s Brood” and I have been transported to 12 century England/France for the past week. Traveling to see these places that are so vivid in my mind would be an opportunity of a lifetime. Hopefully, it could be done affordably, (relative term, I know!).

  15. OK, if I win the lottery, I’ll totally be in. 🙂
    I could spend my annual travel budget on the tour, but when I plan such things for myself, I always include Roman remains, but not every Eleanor fan is a Roman geek as well. 😉
    Maybe it could be possible to join part of the tour if the itinerary is known. Doing only the Normandy might be within my budget.

  16. Today, Raymond VI, Count of Toulouse, who married Joanna Plantagenet, and Catherine of Valois, who married Heny V (VI) and gave birth to Henry VI (VII) were born.

  17. I just wrote a brief note about Raymond and Catherine, definitely an odd couple, on Facebook, which I mean to copy here. I should have known that you’d be on it, Koby! BTW, several of my Facebook friends asked me to pass on their compliments to you after I gave you credit for your blog postings of medieval happenings that I either had forgotten or had never known. Anyway, here is what I said on Facebook, obviously tongue-in-cheek about Catherine, but very seriously about Raymond.
    “I’m briefly playing truent from Lionheart to comment on the birthdate anniversaries of two interesting historical figures. Catherine of Valois was born on this date in 1401; she would become the queen of Henry V of England, and after her eye was caught by a handsome Welshman named Owen Tudor, she secretly married him and thus must be blamed for the start of the Tudor dynasty. Catherine, you seem like a nice lady, but you’ve so much to answer for! Why couldn’t you have quietly entered a nunnery? Although if you had, then there would never have been an Elizabeth Tudor and this means there would never have been a novel about Elizabeth by Margaret George (a masterpiece due out next April) so it can be tricky to weigh the scales.
    And on this date in 1156, Raymond de St Gilles, the 6th Count of Toulouse was born. Today he is remembered as the second husband of Joanna, daughter of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine. He is actually one of history’s most maligned figures, his reputation totally trashed by his enemies during his lifetime and for centuries after his death. His great sin? He was a man of religious tolerance in the 12th century and ruled over a prosperous land that was coveted by the French crown and some very unscrupulous lords. The result was the Albigensian “Crusade,” one of the darker chapters in Church history and one of the reasons why I curse the name of Pope Innocent III. Raymond was not a Cathar; he was not a dissolute, womanizing heretic; Joanna did not flee from him in fear; he was neither treacherous nor brutal. He was a decent man caught up in a tragedy that was not of his making and then had his history rewritten by the victors. Unlike Richard III, though, there would be no Raymond de St Gilles societies to try to set the record straight. So please do not believe the nonsense that you read about Raymond on-line or in so-called histories. He deserves better.”

  18. On October 28, 1216, John’s 9 year old son was crowned Henry III in Gloucester, the only minor to be crowned. Here is a brief account of the unusual circumstances of the coronation, though I think it was a bit over the top to refer to “John the Evil.” (You must have slept in this morning, Koby!)

  20. First of all, Sharon, as I’ve said before, it is my pleasure to suply you with historical dates. Thanks for giving me credit.
    As for Henry, I didn’t oversleep, but being a college student means I sometimes have to learn before I can devote my time to other matters. Interesting link, though I feel it’s very exaggerated.

  21. I agree, Koby. John the Evil? Whenever you post something I either did not know or forgot, I always give you credit on Facebook, and as a result, some of my Facebook readers have become curious about the all-knowing mysterious Koby. Several of them were delighted when I revealed that you were an Israeli college student, for–like me–they love the idea of the web bringing people together from all over the world. Just this morning, I corresponded with people in Wales, New Zealand, Australia, the US, and Canada. Is that cool or what?

  22. Don’t know about ‘John the Evil’, but he wasn’t a very pleasant man! He may not have killed Arthur, but he certainly did have killed 27 Welsh hostages, some of them children. The ODNB says in part:
    ‘Monastic authors such as Coggeshall and Wendover believed that he went to hell. Matthew Paris disapproved of, but repeated, the acerbic comment that ‘Foul as it is, Hell itself is made fouler by the presence of John’ (Paris, Chron., 2.669).’

  25. How about this: We know John was surely sent to Heaven. Why? Because thye were afraid that if he eneded up in Hell, he’d take it over and begin a war against Heaven, not stopping until he wins.
    Lord, my mind thinks up weird stuff when it’s up late at night and programming. I’m off to bed, then.

  26. LOL, Koby. But John really didn’t have much military successes. His one great triumph was Mirebeau, and he tarnished that by having Arthur murdered and some of his knights starved to death afterward. Now Richard would have been another story–maybe this is why he was sent to Purgatory? My favorite chronicle entry of all time is the one that tells us when Richard was released from Purgatory; it was 1236 if my memory serves.

  27. Chasing Eleanor’s ghost would be a greyt birthday present to myself; let’s see how the plan progresses. I just filled out the short survey.
    Koby, my boss is in Israel right now and toured the Golan Heights etc. today. He was very amazed.

  28. Hi Sharon. On a totally-unrelated-to-this-blog note, I’ve just noticed that Cruel as the Grave has recently become available in Kindle format. Can ‘When Christ and His Saints Slept’ be far behind? Still hoping…..

  29. I wish, Susan, I wish! We keep asking all the time; it is Amazon responsible for the delay, not my publisher. They keep saying it will done, but the months go by and nothing happens. As you can tell, I am very frustrated at this point.

  30. Break out the black armbands, guys. On October 30, 1485, Henry Tudor was crowned as Henry VII. Think how much more interesting British history would have been if only the Plantagenets had continued to rule. Granted, I’d have missed Elizabeth Tudor and Charles II, but we could have done nicely without the rest of the lot!

  31. Also, Sharon, today Henry VI (VII) was restored to the throne by Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick.

  32. Britta, he’s totally right – the Golan is amazing.
    Today, RObert Fitz Roy, EArl of Gloucester and supporter of Maude died, as well as Leonora Queen of Castile, who was Eleanor’s and Henry’s daughter.

  33. So much happened on this date in history. Thanks for reminding us about Robert Fitz Roy and Leonora, Koby; I naturally gave you full credit on Facebook. Leonora, died on October 31, 1214; she is said to have been devastated by the death of her husband, who’d died only 28 days earlier.
    Here’s a surprising fact. How many knew that Henry and Eleanor both lived longer than all of their children? Henry died at 56 and Eleanor at 80; we now know her birth date was 1124, not 1122. But of all their children, Leonora was the oldest when she died and she was only 52. John was 50, Richard 41, Joanna and Matilda in their thirties, Hal and Geoffrey in their twenties, and William only 3. Eleanor’s two daughters by Louis also died young by our standards; Marie was only 52. Eleanor had the tragedy of outliving all but 2 of her 10 children, and one of them was John 🙂 Henry’s illegitimate children fared somewhat better. Geoff, who became Archbishop of York, made it to about 65 or so, depending upon his birthdate; I guess all his feuding gave him a reason for living
    Oh, yes, and on October 31, 1517, a guy named Martin Luther nailed 95 theses to a church door in Wittenberg, Germany, and began a little thing called the Protestant Reformation.
    In the MA, today was All Hallow’s Eve, the eve of All Saints’ Day. So Happy Halloween to one and all, even if you live in a country that doesn’t celebrate it.

  35. In 1973, the second full day my wife and I spent in Brittany was November 1 (Toussaints). Almost everything of consequence in Rennes was closed on that French holiday. Hallowe’en is our middle son Reed’s favorite holiday, except when he opens Christmas presents. Besides putting up decorations, he has carved 6 of 7 pumpkins – 7th by younger brother Nicholas. We hope to see a few trick-or-treaters. May you all enjoy the season and the cooler weather.

  36. A plague on the America’s!! We in the UK are now inundated by ‘trick-or-treaters’ on this day!
    Just had to go and get some creepy sweets to keep the little beggars who knock on my door happy or they might burn my house down!

  41. I don’t mind joining in with the pagans and dancing in the street as summer ends, it’s having to give sweets to the little darlings who knock on my door, or else suffer the consequences, that gets me!
    BTW, Halloween has now taken over from our sacred ‘Bonfire Night’ on November 5. Practically no-one celebrates Guy Fawkes day anymore! And then there’s Christmas! Bah, Humbug!!!!!

  43. Or in Israel. Anyways, today, Anne of York, Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville’s fifth daughter was born, Matilda of Flanders, the wife of William the Conqueror died, and Henry Stafford, 2nd Duke of Buckingham was executed for his crimes.

  44. Hi Sharon,
    This is my first post although I’ve been reading the blog for months now. Your books are wonderful. Although I have yet to read the Angevin trilogy, they are at the top of my to be read pile. Definitely count me in for the trip to France. How often do you get to read books and then visit some of the sights mentionned in the novels. I had planned a trip to the UK for the summer of 2011 but I may postpone it or perhaps do both. 😉
    I also join Cindy in requesting that the next trip be in Wales…
    Ken, I almost forgot it was Halloween on Sunday because it snowed overnight. It looked more like Christmas morning than Halloween. It was a cold night for the trick-or-treaters. People around here turn off the lights in the house if they don’t want to be bothered. If you want to stick it to the kids though, you could always throw a handful of peanuts (still in their shells). :)P That usually had us talking when we were doing our candy inventory at the end of the night. Do you have peanuts? I know peanut butter is not a staple of a british diet!

  45. Wow, what a trip! I am so interested and anxious for the itinerary to be announced so I can work on my better half. She’s an artist and has always wanted to visit France.

  46. Snow, Emilie? Wow….do you live in Colorado, by chance? I saw that they were hit by an early season snowstorm.
    Skip, the travel agency has been going over the poll results and suggestions; I hope to have some news soon.

  47. Wow, how I would love to go on this trip! I have no idea how I could, but I can dream…
    On another note, Sharon, are you familiar with the author Jean Plaidy? She has popped up on my reccomended books list on Amazon.com because my wish list is loaded with your books, Elizabeth Chadwick’s, and C.W. Gortner’s. I was just wondering if you knew anything about her, one way or the other.
    Keep us posted on the trip!!!

  48. I live in Ottawa, Canada. The snow is almost all gone now but it’s getting colder so it’s only a matter of time before winter sets in!

  50. Hi Sara!
    I have a few books by Jean Plaidy. I can’t remember when I got them but they were written almost 40 years ago. Look J. P. up at wikipedia and you will be surprised at how much she wrote and under all diffrent names (like Victoria Holt). She died in 1993 (aged 86).

  51. Sara, Jean Plaidy wrote numerous novels that were purportedly historical, but they are not at all historically accurate. Some of my readers have told me they have a soft spot for her because she introduced them to historical fiction. But you cannot rely upon what she says. So if you read them, do it just for entertainment, not to learn anything about the MA. Here’s a Plaidy-related story, sort of. I’d chosen Sunne in Splendour as the title, but I wasn’t that crazy about it; I later learned to like it. I’d chosen it as a “working title” initially, and when I learned that Jean Plaidy had written a novel about Edward IV called The Sun in Splendour, I was pleased, thinking this would mean we’d have to the change my title for the British edition; Sunne was published in the US in 1982, but not till the following year in the UK, so there was still time. But when I asked my British editor about the Plaidy book and mine causing confusion, he just laughed and said it was not a problem, that Plaidy’s books were jokes and no one would confuse hers and mine. She also wrote many books under different pseudonyms, as Monica notes. I seem to remember enjoying her Victoria Holt novels years ago, but they were not historical and that makes a huge difference, at least for obsessive-compulsive types like me! My idea of a historical novel would be the ones written by Anya Seton or Hillary Mantel–and as most of you know, I am a fan of Elizabeth Chadwick and Christopher Gortner’s novels.
    Thanks, Koby–I’ve become totally dependent upon you for these interesting little nuggets of information!

  52. Sharon,
    I love Anya Seton’s “Katherine”. So when Allison Weir came out with the same I got that one too. To my dismay I feel that she tears A. S. apart.
    I have several books by A.W. and I can’t make up my mind if I like her or not. She sounds too much of a teacher sometimes.
    I’m looking forward to more info. about the trip to France AND I second the request of Wales, Wales, Wales………… 🙂

  55. Sharon and everyone – Not to get too off-topic, but you may be interested to know one of the addressees of the package bombs recently intercepted on their way from Yemen to Chicago. One package was addressed to Reynald Krak, aka Reynald de Chatillon. The other reflected a similar historical reference to a persecutor of Muslims, Diego Deza, successor to Torquemada as Grand Inquisitor.
    Another reminder that these adversaries that we face have very long memories ….

  56. The tour sounds fantastic, and any other summer but 2011 I would be jumping on plane to Paris without a second thought. I am hosting my family reunion here in the Midwest next summer, otherwise I would go. Academic tours are also tax deductible for us teachers, so there is another incentive for any future tour that you plan.
    Sharon, I have been reading your books for a few years now and have collected almost all of them. I’ve recommended you to all of my MA friends and linked your website to many an e-mail. You are my favorite author and I greatly admire your historical integrity!
    p.s. This is my first post to your blog.

  57. Thanks, Kathryn–what a lovely compliment. The travel agency is going over all of the responses; they were impressed by the feedback. Once they have an itinerary and time, etc, I’ll share the information. It is most likely to be in the late spring, very early summer. I couldn’t go in the autumn, as that is when Lionheart will probably be published. And going in high summer, July and August, would mean fighting huge crowds of tourists which could detract from the medieaval “aura” we’re hoping to find.

  58. And Today, Louis VIII ‘The Lion’ of France, Philip’s son and briefly claimant to the English Throne died.

  59. Oh, Sharon, what a wonderful thing…I hope you all have an amazing journey…I hope the Angevins walk your path with you…and that they are on their best behavir…

  60. If by ‘early summer’ you mean beginning of June, that would work perfect for us. Our last day of school is May 27.

  61. I’ll let you all know as soon as I find out about the itinerary, time, and prices, etc, Cindy. Naturally these are not my decisions, but they’ve been wonderful about listening to my input about the places to go. Meanwhile, I’m still treading water, but every now and then I see a glimpse of the shoreline, hoping to get the ms off by the weekend.

  63. And today, Charles le Téméraire (the Bold), Duke of Burgundy who would marry Margaret of York was born, as well as Bridget of York, who was the seventh daughter of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville.

  64. MMM, travel -Guide? “lots of People Huddled Together “Don;t Know About That one Sharon”. Sorry.

  65. And today, Adèle of Champagne, mother of Philip II, married Louis VII of France, and Fulk V of Anjou, King of Jerusalem and father to Henry II died.

  67. Sharon,
    Wish I could join you, but I’m trying to save of 20k to remodel my kitchen. Plus I want to go to Wales again, but when I do go, assuming the tories are out of power, and immigration isn’t such a big deal in Britain, I want to buy a one way plane ticket.
    Dave

  69. I’m still trying to struggle ashore; so close and yet so far. At this point, I usually loathe the manuscript and all in it; by this time in Sunne, I wqs ready to cheer for Henry Tudor at Bosworth. But I hope to stumble up onto the beach by tonight, that is, send the ms. off to my editor’s tender mercies. Then I’ll probably collapse like a punctured balloon.

  71. Don;y Burn -out Sharon!” Deep breadths” Well See you At the BookStores!. Because We Know Its All Good (I wonder Who reads it Fastest) ??…….I read the Last Harry potter in Two Days ?…With Breaks of Course but I;ll Savour Lionhart ?.

  72. Just remeber, Sharon, we’re all behind you.
    In other matters, Herny III (IV) of England died today, and so did Queen (and Saint) Margaret of Scotland, who was the mother/grandmother of many characters in your books, Sharon: for example, mother to David I of Scotland, grandmother to Empress Maude and Matilda of Boulogne, Stephen’s queen.

  74. Well, I don’t know if this counts, but Tuesday November 16, 2010 is when Prince William and Kate Middeton announced their engagement to the world. Someday that will be considered history!

  75. Sharon,
    Apparently, according to under twenties, your novel about Richard Lionheart is completely fiction. Read this article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1577511/winston-churchill-didnt-really-exist-say-teens.html On a personal note, I think it’s pathetic that children are taught so little history, and think it so unimportant to study beyond 14(in the uk that is). If there are any history teachers out there reading this please respond, and restore my faith in our education system.
    Dave

  76. when i did history at School?……my Exam Sylibus was (the Corn Laws?) Boring Boring, The Teachers were Bad?…. and Boring thank God for My Mum(History Buff -Uneducated-Self Educated ) Blamed the Blitz?? However?I;m self taught! mum, Put Me on too Sharon?.and my Sisters? Were ALL good at History….”Thanks Mum.”

  77. Please keep us posted on tour info details. I would adore going on a tour with you as a guide, what a treat that would be. Happy New Year!

  78. Would also be very interested in tour if it materializes. Would obviously need specifics about dates, etc, but I would love to make this journey with you and others who have fascination with Eleanor…. is there a website where I can follow the progress of tour plans?

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